NEWLY DIAGNOSED: Clarify your Hodgkin's diagnosis
A proper Hodgkin's lymphoma diagnosis is difficult to make and should therefore be made by a hematopathologist or blood pathologist. It will include at least three features, and together they will dictate your treatment:
1 SUBTYPE
2 STAGING
A. Involvement of nodal sites
B. Involvement of extranodal sites
3 CATEGORIES
1. SUBTYPE
There are two subtypes in Hodgkin's lymphoma. Your diagnosis should indicate which one.
Classical Hodgkin's lymphoma (CHL).
Nodular lymphocyte-predominant Hodgkin lymphoma (NLPHL).
95% of all diagnoses are Classical Hodgkin's.
1a. CHL SUBTYPE
Classical Hodgkin's lymphoma is further divided into four subtypes:
Nodular Sclerosis Hodgkin's lymphoma (60-70%)
Mixed Cellularity Hodgkin's lymphoma (25%)
Lymphocyte-Depleted Hodgkin's lymphoma (4%)
Lymphocyte-Rich Classic Hodgkin's lymphoma (1%)
2. STAGING
Hodgkin's has four stages, expressed in Roman numerals (I, II, III IV). Each stage expresses a greater spread throughout the body. There is no better visual available than the one below, from the LLS pdf on Hodgkin's Lymphoma:

2.A. INVOLVEMENT OF NODAL SITES
When doctors talk about Hodgkin's involving "regional lymph nodes", "lymph node regions", "lymphatic sites" or nodal sites, they are talking about a classification system that was created in 1965 to group otherwise somewhat unassociated lymph nodes together so that everyone knew what everyone else was talking about. There are 9 core nodal regions for Hodgkin's lymphoma. The numbers below correspond to the numbers on the diagram below, but they are not numbered by convention—I numbered them for convenience (Also, on the diagram, I crossed out regions that are rarely ever involved in Hodgkin's). The 9 core regions are:
1. Right/Left Cervical lymph nodes (cervical, supraclavicular, occipital, preauricular)
2. Right/Left Axillary lymph nodes
3. Right/Left Infraclavicular lymph nodes
4. Mediastinal lymph nodes
5. Right/Left Hilar lymph nodes
6. Paraaortic lymph nodes
7. Mesenteric lymph ndoes
8. Right/Left Pelvic lymph nodes (referred to on the chart as "Iliac")
9. Right/Left Inguinofemoral lymph nodes
The spleen and the thymus are also considered nodal or lymphatic sites. If your Hodgkin's spread to one or more of these regions, it should be noted in your diagnosis.

2.B. INVOLVEMENT OF EXTRANODAL SITES
Extranodal involvement of organ sites (also called extralymphatic involvement) means that the cancer has reached a site beyond the lymph nodes. When this is the case, staging should be written to add an E (such as Stage IIE). If there are more than one extralymphatic sites involved, sometimes doctors will add the number as a subscript after the E.
Possible extranodal sites include the Liver, Lungs, Bone, Bone marrow, G.I. tract, Skin, Kidneys, Ocular adnexae (regions around the eye) and the Central nervous system.
3. CATEGORIES
This feature indicates whether you are experiencing what are known as 'B symptoms': weight loss, night sweats and/or fatigue. If you ARE experiencing them, the letter 'B' is attached to the staging. If you are NOT experiencing them, the letter 'A' is added (as in 'Asymptomatic').
ENSURING AN ACCURATE DIAGNOSIS
Here's what you can do to ensure as precise a lymphoma diagnosis as possible, and avoid diagnostic mistakes that could cost you time and treatment:
1. INSIST that your biopsy be reviewed by a hematopathologist or blood pathologist—this will contribute to a more accurate diagnosis than one given by an ordinary pathologist.
2. REQUEST that your diagnosis be delivered you to you containing all the necessary constituent parts: (Circle each aspect if part of the diagnosis):
SUBTYPE
Classical Hodgkin's lymphoma (CHL)
or
Nodular lymphocyte-predominant Hodgkin lymphoma (NLPHL).
If Classical Hodgkin's lymphoma (CHL), which subtype?
- Nodular Sclerosis
- Mixed Cellularity
- Lymphocyte-Depleted
- Lymphocyte-Rich Classic
STAGING:
I
II
III
IV
NODAL INVOLVEMENT? Y / N
R / L Cervical
R / L Axillary
R / L Infraclavicular
Mediastinal
R / L Hilar
Paraaortic
Mesenteric
R / L Pelvic
R / L Inguinofemoral
Spleen
Thymus
EXTRANODAL INVOLVEMENT? Y / N
Liver
Lung
Bone
Bone marrow
G.I. tract
Skin
Kidneys
Ocular adnexae
Central nervous system
CATEGORY:
A
B
Full Diagnosis:______________________________________________
Ross, you should cross-post this thread under "Hodgkin's Lymphoma"
Ross I would make this thread available on all cancer posts, even tho not all are blood cancers. It let's people know they have to ask for specifics or they won't get them!
Thanks- you can see that I actually posted this back in February of 2010, and at that time we were categorizing all oncology tips under 'cancer'. At some point that changed and in the process this shifted under NHLs. Weird.
Anyway I'm going to make one addition to it -- the classification of extra-nodal sites in HL --- and then i'll repost it.
I'll also try to put together similar pages for some of the other cancers here.
Hey Fight, who gave you that initial dx and treatment recommendation -- was this a community doctor, private practice, etc? I can't remember, and I feel like you've said as much.
Hi Ross,
my initial diagnosis was done by the pathology department at the hospital where I had my tonsillectomy. I was lucky that the senior pathologist there is actually a leading expert in Hodgkin's diagnosis, so his staff caught it.
Nevertheless, my second and third opinions recommended a pathology review, because of the unusual presentation (no symptoms, PET scan showing only activity in surgical bed, otherwise clear) and relatively rare subtype. I had it done at Stanford, and their pathology department confirmed the diagnosis.
As for the treatment, the first hematoncologist (private practice) gave a treatment recommendation of 6x ABVD + rads. Subsequent 2nd and 3rd opinion (private practice hematoncologist, comprehensive cancer centers) cited the results of the German Hodgkin's studies, and both recommended 2x ABDV + rads, which is what I am going with.
Also, the first hematoncologist was going to treat me prophylactically with Neulasta and Neupogen - something that the other oncologists adamantly opposed. Given my short treatment, they both opined that I would never need the Neupogen, and the GCSF would be administered only if my counts dropped too low, and they would need to be 50% lower than were they are now for them to consider it.
Hope this helps all other Hodgers' and cancer patients. Your checklist is invaluable and I endorse it in the strongest possible way.
Hi Ross,
I found this just recently, a very interesting resource that collects all best medical practice references for all parts of the process in one handy place. Seems accurate at first glance.
https://online.epocrates.com/noFrame/showPage.do?method=diseases&MonographId=311
Fight2
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Ross, this is an awesome post, and should be made into a 'sticky' thread at the very top.
My first oncologist just reflexively set me up for six cycles of ABVD even without the full staging information. Interestingly, I got a second, third and fourth opinion who all concurred that:
a) My 'presentation' was very favorable (Stage IA)
b) My subtype was very favorable (Classical Hodgkin's Lymphocyte-rich)
c) My risk factors were low (only one was being male), IPS=1
d) My PET scan was basically clean (one area was lighting up, but likely due to surgery)
Therefore, they all recommended 2x of ABVD with re-evaluation after a PET scan.
Moral of the story: I could have easily have been overtreated if I hadn't followed a checklist similar to yours, with long term damage to my body and risk of secondary malignancies.
Now let's hope the 2x ABVD + radiation will rid me of the enemy.
Fighttothefinish
Classical HL (LR) Stage IA - Dx 4/28/2011
2x ABVD started 6/7/2011, finished 7/29/2011
IF radiation started 8/29/2011, finished 9/12/2011
PET/CT clear 11/29/2011 :)